No learner's permit here yet. He's resisting, because he doesn't want to give money to the government. Of course, as time has moved on, he has said, "If someone else wants to pay for my license and insurance and gas ..." to which I laughed quite heartily.

My 14-year-old has driven with his dad a couple of times, and wants a Mustang. *coughs and tries not to panic* Right. So, if he gets a part-time job, it'll take him how many years to attain that goal? Right. No need to worry just yet. I had a Mustang. I know how much power they have. *tries not to fret*